#Umineko when they cry death scene full#

So is it a scene placed prior KinzoвЂ™s death?Д«ut then thereвЂ™s the mention of Ruon, who should have left Rokkenjima alreadyвЂ¦ and then Kanon shows up, and we heard Shannon referring to herself as furniture, something sheвЂ™ll start doing after Kinzo diedвЂ¦ As Shannon knows that Kinzo is dead thereвЂ™s no reason for her to lie in front of Shannon about Kinzo coming back. We see that Natsuhi mentions both Kinzo and Krauss coming back. NowвЂ¦ what about the scene in which Natsuhi scolds Shannon? Likely the scene with Eva telling Shannon to know her place is placed after this one, merely continuing the flashback. It fits with Confession in which weвЂ™re told Sayo found a new love AFTER KanonвЂ™s birth but BEFORE KinzoвЂ™s death. вЂ¦we can assume it was in 1984 as itвЂ™s short after George defended Shannon that Jessica became aware of the feelings between the twoвЂ¦ and during that episode George met Kinzo so likely kinzo was still alive. вЂShe had started to envy George and ShannonвЂ™s relationship about two years ago?вЂ™

In Ep 2 weвЂ™re told she was a middle schooler when George rescued herвЂ¦ and my guess is that it happened after she gave up on Battler. вЂ¦is something that happened likely before KinzoвЂ™s death. So letвЂ™s try to put an order into this thing. ItвЂ™s pretty obvious that the order of the events is messed up as flashbacks are placed all around and magic scenes are also added. George tells Shannon he plans to ask her to marry him at the next family conference. Shannon suggest Jessica to invite Kanon to the school festival. Jessica asks Kanon to go with her to the school festival. Kanon sees Kinzo mourning because Beatrice isnвЂ™t there. Shannon eats cookies with Beatrice then hands Kanon the brooch she was given. Shannon, back from Okinawa, talks with Jessica Beatrice offers Shannon her help if sheвЂ™ll break the spirit mirror Of course since a good part of the story in Ep 2 is tinged by вЂmagicвЂ™, we can tell ourselves that since not everything is as it is showed, the parts that donвЂ™t fit, just donвЂ™t do it because theyвЂ™re deceptive (see Ruon being there when Ep 7 said she leftвЂ¦ which might be merely Ryukishi forgetting about having said Ruon was around in Ep 2).ДЇirst a list of what happens in Ep 2 as presented in Ep 2 (IвЂ™m using the manga as reference because itвЂ™s faster to check through it, if IвЂ™m not wrong the VN more or less used the same order):

#Umineko when they cry death scene full#

Ep 2 is complicate, isnвЂ™t it? ThereвЂ™s not a full canon answer but we have some objective info on this regard while about certain things, we can only speculate.ДЄlso, although Ryukishi studied with care SayoвЂ™s background thereвЂ™s the chance he changed some minor details along the way, judging them not so important or merely forgetting them, so itвЂ™s possible that things wouldnвЂ™t add up.